Ácerca do melhor piloto que nunca ganhou um GP

[Artur Nunes]

In the same way that Francis Albert Sinatra was the singers' singer, <span style="color:orange">Amon was the drivers' driver, highly respected by his comtemporaries, including Jackie Stewart.:blink1:

.... Sadly, other than a fine win in Le Mans 24-hours, with fellow kiwi Bruce Mclaren, <span style="color:orange">Amon will forever be remembered as the greatest driver never to win a Grand prix, as opposed to Stirling Moss, the greatest driver never to win the World Championship.:sad:

&quot;God blessed him with the most amazing talent for driving racing cars,&quot; <span style="color:yellow">writes Jackie Stewart, in his foreword. &quot;He must have been one of the most skilful and natural drivers ever to grace Formula One... Why Chris never won a Grand Prix is a conundrum that few people who were around at the time will ever fathom. It was nothing to do with his driving abilities... <span style="color:yellow">Chris was one of the best racing drivers I ever knew or saw in action&quot;:fixe:

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_new...es_art_id=26573

para fazer notar que o curriculo ou vitórias em GP (e no caso de Stirling Moss, em campeonatos) não são a unica medida da grandeza de um piloto, ou das suas capacidades... é mais complicado que isso, n se resume a tabelas de pontos, poles ou campeonatos ganhos. :noworry:

Many people still ask the question &quot;How good was Chris Amon?&quot; The answer is, that as a driver he was very good. Very, very good. He won the Le Mans 24 Hours, plus 8 Grands Prix which, although being of non-championship status pitched him against class fields. This was in the days when the championship was often frowned upon for being a way of rewarding reliability rather than speed. He was the moral victor of many other races. Anyone who he raced for or alongside still has glowing memories. <span style="color:yellow">Forghieri said that &quot;he had no belief in his own ability, [but] I felt that <span style="color:yellow">he was the one driver who could equal James Clark.&quot;
Look at the Tasman Cup, and there is the truth to back that up. Mo Nunn praised him: &quot;He was the first driver we had who could give us any feed-back on how the car was behaving. He pinpointed a problem we had in respect of our straight-line speed, a problem we traced to the wrong airbox shape. Admittedly, early on in our relationship, I used to test him. On one occasion I adjusted the rear wing by one notch. After two laps he was back in the pits saying 'Morris, have you changed the rear wing adjustment?' He helped us make the new car [the N176] competitive.&quot;

http://8w.forix.com/amon.html


:racer:

[Rui Carneiro]

:fixe:
Pena o meu inglês não ser grande coisa...:sad:

[Gil Abobeleira]

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[Rui Lopes]

Está fixe Artur&nbsp;:fixe:

Estranho como é que conseguiu vencer uma prova de 24horas, mas sempre que estava na frente &quot;naquelas&quot; corridas de 2horas, nunca teve a sorte de chegar ao fim em primeiro lugar&nbsp;:sad:
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Vencia-os pelo cansaço :bigsmile:

[Marco]

era falta de sorte ou algo mais?
nao seria nervosismo q levava a erros (conduçao ou provocados na mecanica)

[Luis Branco]

Sorte. Como em tudo na vida é preciso sorte, a tal estrelinha que faz a diferença (não, não estou a falar da Mercedes)

[Vitor Barreto]

Sorte. Como em tudo na vida é preciso sorte, a tal estrelinha que faz a diferença (não, não estou a falar da Mercedes)
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Mas olha que a Estrelinha da Mercedes também faz diferença, o Kimi que o diga :laugh:

[Artur Nunes]

era falta de sorte ou algo mais?
nao seria nervosismo q levava a erros (conduçao ou provocados na mecanica)
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Diz quem privou e competiu com ele que n era esse o problema....

&quot;God blessed him with the most amazing talent for driving racing cars,&quot; writes Jackie Stewart, in his foreword. &quot;He must have been one of the most skilful and natural drivers ever to grace Formula One... Why Chris never won a Grand Prix is a conundrum that few people who were around at the time will ever fathom. It was nothing to do with his driving abilities... Chris was one of the best racing drivers I ever knew or saw in action&quot;

E o Mauro Forghieri tb n viu isso no homem: Forghieri said that &quot;he had no belief in his own ability, [but] I felt that he was the one driver who could equal James Clark.&quot;

Se o tivessem como nervoso ou pouco cuidadoso... :noworry:

Não olhem só para os curricula ou pontuações ou palmarés do ppl para classificar... por ex, dei comigo hoje a pensar no Ronaldinho, ganhou justamente a Bola de Ouro, vi no jornal a lista completa dos varios premiados ao longo dos anos e não vi lá um jogador que para mim era absolutamente fabuloso, raras vezes o vi jogar menos que bom, normalmente mais que isso: Michael Laudrup.
Vá se lá saber porquê... :notrust:

[Rui Lopes]

Diz quem&nbsp; privou e competiu com ele que n era esse o problema....

&quot;God blessed him with the most amazing talent for driving racing cars,&quot; writes Jackie Stewart, in his foreword. &quot;He must have been one of the most skilful and natural drivers ever to grace Formula One... Why Chris never won a Grand Prix is a conundrum that few people who were around at the time will ever fathom. It was nothing to do with his driving abilities... Chris was one of the best racing drivers I ever knew or saw in action&quot;

E o Mauro Forghieri tb n viu isso no homem: Forghieri said that &quot;he had no belief in his own ability, [but] I felt that he was the one driver who could equal James Clark.&quot;

Se o tivessem como nervoso ou pouco cuidadoso...&nbsp;:noworry:

Não olhem só para os curricula ou pontuações ou palmarés do ppl para classificar... por ex, dei comigo hoje a pensar no Ronaldinho, ganhou justamente a Bola de Ouro, vi no jornal a lista completa dos varios premiados ao longo dos anos e não vi lá um jogador que para mim era absolutamente fabuloso, raras vezes o vi jogar menos que bom, normalmente mais que isso: Michael Laudrup.
Vá se lá saber porquê...&nbsp; :notrust:
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Que dizer do Michael Laudrup, faltou-lhe o titulo europeu em 92 :confused:

Mas há tantos que podiam estar nessa lista e não estão.

ps: Por acaso reparaste que Maradona não consta :blink1:

[Marco]

nunca me referi aos titulos ou victorias.

como of Forghieri disse, ele nao confiava nas suas habilidades.
provavelmente era essa falta de confiança em si q nao lhe permitia ganhar.

o Ronaldo é ou foi o jogador q sabemos, no entanto na final contra a França, borrou-se todo, no verdadeiro sentido da palavra. Nervosismo? Falta de confiança?

a falta de sorte nao pode acompanhar sempre uma pessoa, se assim for, mais vale ir a bruxa. existe sempre algo mais e nao quer dizer q seja a falta de capacidade.